What does real leadership look like when lives are on the line?In this episode of Bold Ideas, Gentner Drummond joins Matt Parker for a conversation about combat, courage, and the kind of decision-making that only comes from being tested under pressure.Drummond shares what it was like to lead a first strike package into Iraq during the Gulf War, how fighter pilots are trained to survive if they’re shot down, and what recent events in Iran reveal about the reality of modern combat.They also discuss what those experiences taught him about leadership, responsibility, and making hard decisions when the stakes are real.Topics include:Gulf War combat missionsFighter pilot survival trainingEjection and rescue behind enemy linesIran and modern military conflictLeadership under pressure👉 Learn more at https://drummondok.com/#GentnerDrummond #BoldIdeasPodcast #CombatPilot #IranWar #MilitaryLeadership #FighterPilot #Oklahoma DrummondOK.com/podcast